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db.
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Noss
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USA
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 Posted - 04/16/2008 : 01:04:59
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db.: Welcome to the forum. Yes the the Glock knife test is still going to happen. I don't have an exact date but hopefully soon.
I looked at your links those are some nice looking knives. the S.O.K. looks like a good candidate for a test.
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Tac45
Junior Member
Australia
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Posted - 04/16/2008 : 06:12:06
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I've always been curious about the Glock knives. I'm a huge fan of Glock pistols. If memory serves the knives are issued to troops in Austria. They seem to have some top notch gear. Their field optical inventory has binoculars made by Swarovski. Nothing cheap and nasty about those binos. Certainly not a disposable unit and big bucks in cost. Sure the Glock knife isn't expensive but Noss's tests have proven that price isn't a factor in hard use knives. Maybe their terms of reference are different for what a field knife should do? Would be interesting to see what the makers of 'combat tupperware' have come up with for a knife.
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db.
Starting Member
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Posted - 04/16/2008 : 08:22:21
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Yes the first time I came across the S.O.K. knife I thought it looks not to strong but the falkniven knife gave me a clue what might be its strenght.
@ Tac45 If your interested in top notch materials and build in guns maybe this is also an interesting link its a FNHerstal made in a Belgium factory and used by our anti terrorist special forces, called BBS.
http://www.fnherstal.com/html/Index.htm
About the Glock knife, Its said that the tip could be used to shatterd plexiglas, glas.. etc,..( I somehow liked the pommel demo on the gerber lmfII...on the gerber site they stated its use in cutting power line due to its isolation handle. Maybe this is also a good point in taking notice in a test ? )
Im interested also how the tang of the glock is ,...might be the same as the reissued commando knife in the link.
Ive read that a the glock is also one of the few knives that is balanced for throwing. |
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Survivinox
New Member
Germany
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Posted - 04/16/2008 : 15:08:02
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The toughness of the Glock knives are based on the "cheap" spring steel with a low degree of hardness (HRC55, I guess even a bit lower)
Due to this steel they are made for many heavy tasks. (prying/beating etc.)
But the cutting abilities aren't the the best.
Yes, they are perfectly balanced for throwing.
But it's silly to take the risk of loosing your tool in an emergency in the wildness^^ |
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Tac45
Junior Member
Australia
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Posted - 04/16/2008 : 17:24:39
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db. FN make some outstanding weapons. The Australian army use the 9mm FN made Browning Hi Power. The Minimi and MAG machine guns. The current rifle is the Steyr AUG which replaced a modified version of the FN FAL which was in use here for over 20 years.
You are so right about the knife throwing Survivinox. But it looks good in movies, just like dodging bullets from 20 bad guys with machine guns. |
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db.
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Posted - 04/17/2008 : 03:37:55
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Your right Survivinox,....I checked the HRC that you mentioned I was almost sure I read it used to be 63 rockwell but on the site it said HRC 55. So I must be mistaken. Im curious as well if the Glock survival knife will break if hit on the saw side.
Im trying to read up on the Busser steel because Noss`s his tests impressed me. Would you say that with the right tools lets say "edge pro" you are able to really get a sharp Glock or busse knife ?
When looking at the tests I wondered about all those very expensive custom damast made blades. Those with the partially tempered blades how they would keep up in destruction tests. |
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Man of Iron
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Posted - 04/17/2008 : 09:30:18
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I've seen the SOK, not very impressed. Heard the handle will break under extreme cold, besides the plastic used is very light and does not provide enough grip IMO.
A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore |
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Man of Iron
Junior Member
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Posted - 04/17/2008 : 09:32:45
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A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore |
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db.
Starting Member
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Posted - 04/17/2008 : 11:17:44
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| Man of iron, did you see it when it was first introduced or after Hill made improvements regarding feedback from users ? |
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Man of Iron
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Posted - 04/17/2008 : 14:08:29
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Dunno which one, but it was used, by the KCT (Dutch Special Forces)
A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore |
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Noss
Moderator
USA
1382 Posts |
Posted - 04/17/2008 : 17:10:44
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Someone is sending me a new Glock knife to test. It's the one with the saw I think. I hear is you sharpen them up well and the come dull. They perform well at cutting.
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db.
Starting Member
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Posted - 04/17/2008 : 18:48:32
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I got my glock 81 out today after not using it for a long time. As I have a garden with 2 chestnut trees in it. I used it to dig and get through and around roots. Not strange that it got dull the first time around. So i brought it to the cutterly shop with the request to make it sharp again. ( some time ago ) Not sure what standard there is but I tried some papers and a cardbord. it cuts through nicely and if you do it with some small force it will slide through quite easy with a reasonably clean cut. I have the feeling that it was angled more while sharpened. Also mine is from edge to saw half bare shiney metal due to sharpening. So im curious how it is out of the box and in use on a field trip.
I am pondering what is the best way to keep your knife in best condition ( sharp wise and durability )? So far from some threads I have the idea edge pro might be a good option. At least looks most secure and easy to master ?
I have been reading up on the Sykes dagger. Probably first serious knife I ever saw. A friend his father used to be a commando in the dutch army, He showed me his Sykes as proof. The design must have had an impact, for I still can see the image vividly after all these years.
As it said on different forums that it was prone to brake on lateral force on the hilt. im trying to get a bigger understanding of why it would brake and what are the most dominant factors so it wont brake. This also in comparison towards the new reissued design of Hill knives. |
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Tac45
Junior Member
Australia
106 Posts |
Posted - 04/17/2008 : 23:59:52
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db the reason the Fairbairn/Sykes dagger would break from lateral force is because it is quite thin and doesn't flex well. It was designed as a thrusting weapon. The dagger is perhaps the purest form of fighting knife as its intended use is just that...fighting. They are not made for utility or any other pleasant or mundane knife use. Just as a handgun was not made for hunting or target practice.
Obviously the F/S served quite well in it's intended purpose. This style of knife was adopted by others in WW2. The M3 Trench knife and the V42 Stiletto come to mind as being in use by the US. In Australia a copy was made by Greg Steel based in the 1st pattern F/S which had a ricasso on the blade.
Here is an interesting link
http://www.gutterfighting.org/fairbairnknife.html |
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db.
Starting Member
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Posted - 04/18/2008 : 05:17:03
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| Thx for link Tac45, interesting to get original text to my memory of the original stuff |
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Uzi4U
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 09/12/2008 : 05:31:57
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| Are there any photographs of the Glock Field Knife tang? Was the plastic handle ever cut off? |
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