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Tac45
Junior Member



Australia
106 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2008 :  18:12:03  Show Profile Send Tac45 a Private Message
Randall Model 1. Always been my dream knife. Over the years of collecting I could have bought one many times over. Could have ordered and waited from the factory. But I never have. I think if I buy one I will have nothing left to strive for. It's always there like a carrot on the end of a stick.

As far as best fighting knife. The one you have at the time. I have a theory I call the sharp stick theory. Many moons ago man used to sharpen sticks and kill mammoths. The truth is any pointy object can kill. The majority of knife related homicides are commited using plain old kitchen knives. In large number of crime related stabbing incidents the good old screw driver is the weapon of choice. Most knife related deaths occur as a result of puncture wounds not slashes. The gods of war some time ago figured that a blade of seven inches was needed for a knife to be an effective fighter. This length blade has the ability to rupture the aortal bubble when impacting with the torso from various angles outside. The good old Kabar while probably not the most 'tactical' (a much hyped up sales pitch term often used to denote junk) has always been considered a good fighter. It's a cheap and honest knife that has served in conflicts for over sixty years. It may not be the best pry bar. Chopper etc. But in reference to design as a fighter it fits. The Fairbairn/Sykes Dagger pictured earlier is a fighter that's about it. It was designed as a stabbing tool. They are roughly made from very basic steel but they work as a fighter. Use it for anything else and it will break. I have a WW2 one which I've owned for 27 years. It is a third pattern model and man is the war time short supply manufacture cheap. Still British Commandos used these in real world hand to hand action that hasn't been rivalled since.

So to answer the question. A fixed blade of seven inches. Hand guard is good. A striker pommel is a nice touch (pardon the pun). And most of all a knife you can handle well and hit the mark with. Cold Steel have some nice American tantos which also have an equivalent rubber training knife.
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macgregor
Junior Member



USA
301 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2008 :  18:04:15  Show Profile Send macgregor a Private Message
This will be my next fighter, basicly a improved gerber mk2 with no serrations.
http://www.knifemart.com/details.asp?prodid=ROTON%20USA%20TALON%20DAGGER&cat=13&path=

inventor of the bubble distruction test
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me2
Starting Member



10 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2008 :  21:03:27  Show Profile Send me2 a Private Message
I think Cold Steel still makes the Peace Keepers in 5" and 7" blade versions. They also make the Tai Pan. In keeping with the "get a knife that fits what you know" theory, for a pure fighting knife, I'd have to pick a Katar or large push dagger, as punching is basically instinctual to a certain degree. OTOH, my Cold Steel SafeKeeper w/ 5" blade worked really well for apples.
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Tac45
Junior Member



Australia
106 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2008 :  21:11:40  Show Profile Send Tac45 a Private Message
Damn those apples!!! Good thing you them coming.
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ZenMind
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22 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2008 :  22:22:10  Show Profile Send ZenMind a Private Message
going into the army eh? well for head on combat iff you are going to encounter another knife i reccomend the mark 5 from MOD (masters of defence) it has a nice grip that bites into your hand well. also the guard is very open for catching. the pommel is pretty much a hammer head. the knife also has a nice intimidation factor. (if you do get this one dont get the serrated one like i did)

(the MOD is the black one with the spikes as a hand guard)
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb176/xenmind/DSC_0090.jpg

then there is the krambit design now im just linking strider's because i couldnt find a pic of the busse war boar. looking at the design of these knives their shape looks like the only way a punch could be improved.... sorry if that dosent make sense but a swing with the curve forward coming out of the bottom of the fist, there isnt much flesh wise thats going to stop it. kind of like an eagle catching a salmon. however it is lacking on defense. then again there really isnt a defense in a knife fight.... you are going to be cut. well i hope my input was helpful to you.

http://www.striderknives.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=35&category_id=4&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=26
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Sharp
Starting Member



43 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2008 :  23:40:40  Show Profile Send Sharp a Private Message
Benchmade Nimravus

This thing is designed for fighting.

Thumb cut outs on handles. Thin profile. Swedge. Balance is exactly at the index finger groove (slightly handle heavy). Drop point.

This would be my choice, bar none, for a fighting knife. It goes completely with the techniques of Escrima, Applegate, and various other knife fighting techniques. You'll immediately see it once you place the knife in your hands.

I'll get some pics of it tomorrow.

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"What the deuce?!?!"
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awilson
Starting Member



Canada
11 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2008 :  21:46:43  Show Profile Send awilson a Private Message
i would have to go with my applegate fairburn , diffenitly my favorite fighting knife
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Tac45
Junior Member



Australia
106 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2008 :  06:56:23  Show Profile Send Tac45 a Private Message
The Applegate/Fairbairn. Very nice blade. You can see the inspiration derived from Willam Fairbairn and Eric Sykes' orginal design. This is an orginal from WW2. Would you believe the tabs on the side of the sheath were meant for sewing the sheath to the trousers. Guess a change of pants was not an option. The sheath though original was modified by me to replace the elastic retaining strap with a press stud. I did this when very young and way before I knew any better.

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Man of Iron
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197 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2008 :  19:23:43  Show Profile Send Man of Iron a Private Message
The Applegate-Fairburn is definitely on my list. Designed for spec op, specialized in stabbing between the sparer-ribs.

A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore
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Tac45
Junior Member



Australia
106 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2008 :  06:49:28  Show Profile Send Tac45 a Private Message
Here are a few more fighters

Cold Steel

Tanto IX, Oyabun and Original Tanto



OSS, ODA and R1 Military Classic



SOG

Desert Dagger, Mini Tsunami and X42 Recondo

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Man of Iron
Junior Member



197 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2008 :  13:09:50  Show Profile Send Man of Iron a Private Message
Nice.

How do you rate the Kraton on the CS and the SOG? Personally I prefer SOG's.

A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore
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Tac45
Junior Member



Australia
106 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2008 :  16:58:51  Show Profile Send Tac45 a Private Message
The Kraton on the SOG Desert Dagger and CS Tanto and Tanto IX feel almost identical in texture. The SOG has finer chequering. SOG's mini Tsunami has a different texture and feel. It feels more like plastic than rubber, the same material as on the SOG SEAL.

Personally I like both the Desert Dagger and Tantos Kraton. Even though they have that rubber feel. They feel solid. The CS Kraton on the other blades; Oyabun, OSS and ODA feel a little too soft. It gives me the impression that there isn't any steel under it. (I know there is) They just don't have that nice solid feel that inspires confidence.

A big let down for me is the X42 Recondo. Here in Australia it was a very expensive knife from SOG. They used BG42 steel on a production knife. They made a big deal over it....and then put Zytel scales! I don't mind Zytel but it's like putting retread tyres on a Ferrari.
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Tac45
Junior Member



Australia
106 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2008 :  09:46:10  Show Profile Send Tac45 a Private Message
Maybe not the perfect fighting knife. But very Scary looking. Has a medievil meets sci-fi kind of thing happening.

MOD V ATAC.


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