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Topic author: Noss
Subject: Busse Destruction test completed !!
Posted on: 01/21/2008 22:22:12
Message:

Busse FFMB Destruction test.

Enjoy

Part 1


Part 2

Part 3

Part4

Part 5

Part 6

part 7

Part 8

Part 9

Part 10

Part 11


Enjoy !

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A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.

Replies:


Reply author: scytale
Replied on: 01/21/2008 22:32:36
Message:

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am not exactly surprised but DAMN!!! I thought youd at least bend it some. Gotta say thanx man. Alot of peeps have been waiting a long time for this. Just fantatstic!!!!
Rory


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 01/21/2008 22:39:31
Message:

I did break it in the end. I don't stop until the knife does. but it went though every test in the line up with almost no damage.

Shes a beast. !!!

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: scrappy
Replied on: 01/22/2008 01:08:14
Message:

thanks noss, it is good know what it can do


Reply author: redhawk44p
Replied on: 01/22/2008 04:38:50
Message:

Freakin AWESOME test! I gotta watch it again.


Reply author: slipfirep40
Replied on: 01/22/2008 08:54:42
Message:

66 chops for the ffbm, 89 chops for the fbm. Great test, Thanks.

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All errors in spelling and grammar are entirely by design in order to enrage those who have nothing left to add to the discussion and therefore seek superiority through personal attacks.

RON PAUL 2008

RANGER KNIVES

(850) 217-2418


Reply author: B-LORD
Replied on: 01/22/2008 10:38:28
Message:

No chips on concrete, and no chips on steel tubing ? This is SO SERIOUS !!! Great steel and even better heat thretment. Brutal knife, i have to save money for this one. Thanks so much Noss !


Reply author: eatingmuchface
Replied on: 01/22/2008 16:06:55
Message:

OMFG!
dude! thats just crazy!
noss are you okay?
lol
freaking insane, I'll pay you 10,000 dollars for those peices!
lol

really someday I'm gonna hunt you down and try to buy those pieces off of you. :D


Reply author: redhawk44p
Replied on: 01/22/2008 16:10:55
Message:

That Noss is the Dean of Destruction. What a battle. I thought the Busse might win for awhile.


Reply author: foxyrick
Replied on: 01/22/2008 16:52:27
Message:

I just signed up here to say thanks for the fantastic FFBM test. Watching all of that was an amazing ride!

For a minute I thought the knife was going to win.

Now I just need to replace all the pins on my big Busses with solid steel ones, just in case I need to hammer through a scaffolding pole in the near future - well who knows???

I'm just raising a glass of excellent scotch to your health and continued brutal knife destructing - Cheers!

Rick - British Pork!


Reply author: macgregor
Replied on: 01/22/2008 17:11:30
Message:

holy sh*t
noss, 2 freakin hours
now I need a busse

inventor of the bubble distruction test


Reply author: Rune Pedersen
Replied on: 01/22/2008 17:16:58
Message:

....I almost went emotional when she gave in....

Hypo


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 01/22/2008 17:46:50
Message:

foxyrick: Welcome to the forum


Your welcome everyone



slipfirep40: Thanks for counting the chops The FFBM is such a heavy blade. My CGFMB feels like a machete compared to it.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 01/22/2008 17:48:23
Message:

eatingmuchface: 10,000 bucks. Your short by 2 dollars

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: eatingmuchface
Replied on: 01/22/2008 18:29:47
Message:

lol darn! only 2 bucks...
I liked the beginning of the test BTW.
:D
you got jokes don't cha noss?
you seemed so giddy throught the whole test, so did freddy, when the concrete was flying it was great.
it seemed like you enjoyed this test the most out of all of them.
its good to see you get some fun out of the tests, you spend so much time and energy doing them, you deserve to enjoy yourself.
:D


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 01/22/2008 18:57:43
Message:

The tough ones are the funnest ones to test. it is sometimes mind blowing and entertaining to see what one can fully do.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: eatingmuchface
Replied on: 01/22/2008 19:24:09
Message:

I know, its feaking awesome to watch, I can't imagine what its like to actually be there.


Reply author: slipfirep40
Replied on: 01/22/2008 19:26:32
Message:

Is that tank thingy in the background filled? When you were using the knife as a baseball bat and sending chunks of concrete flying into the tank and all its hoses I had his mental scene going on in my head: Whack! Whack! noss: (giggle) Whack! (sounds of rupture hoses) noss and cameraman: OH sh*t! THE HYDROGEN TANK! CUT THE VALVE! CUT THE-






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All errors in spelling and grammar are entirely by design in order to enrage those who have nothing left to add to the discussion and therefore seek superiority through personal attacks.

RON PAUL 2008

RANGER KNIVES

(850) 217-2418


Reply author: itxploded
Replied on: 01/22/2008 19:32:10
Message:

its raining concrete! youre sidg should be, lets continue

logan
sedated for youre protection


Reply author: eatingmuchface
Replied on: 01/22/2008 19:33:12
Message:

lol
hey slipfire, do you know about the new forum?


Reply author: itxploded
Replied on: 01/22/2008 19:33:26
Message:

lol its a air compressor i think

logan
sedated for youre protection


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 01/22/2008 19:35:37
Message:

eatingmuchface: During the concrete chopping my camera man always covers his head. It rains concrete everywhere. you can sometimes here it hitting the camera and the lights.

slipfirep40: the tank is an air compressor. it's just filled with harmless air. If it was to rupture it would blast through the wall.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 01/22/2008 19:37:11
Message:

Lets Continue

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: itxploded
Replied on: 01/22/2008 19:39:46
Message:

head covereed by what?


logan
sedated for youre protection
lets continue


Reply author: eatingmuchface
Replied on: 01/22/2008 19:41:41
Message:

lol thats great. I can here it flying every where! its awesome.
does the camera man like knives too? (lol I call him "the camera man")
is he on any forums?


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 01/22/2008 19:42:03
Message:

He usually uses his hands when he is supposed to have them on the camera He used his jacket this time around.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: itxploded
Replied on: 01/22/2008 19:44:55
Message:

rofl

logan
sedated for youre protection
lets continue


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 01/22/2008 19:45:04
Message:

My camera man is not a huge knife nut but he loves seeing what these knives can do. He's coming around and becoming more interested in them. He's not on any knife forums.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: itxploded
Replied on: 01/22/2008 19:46:26
Message:

awww buy him one cheaper knifelike a mora

logan
sedated for youre protection
lets continue


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 01/22/2008 19:49:45
Message:

I gave him my Kershaw vapor.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: itxploded
Replied on: 01/22/2008 19:50:49
Message:

he nneeds a fixed

logan
sedated for youre protection
lets continue


Reply author: eatingmuchface
Replied on: 01/22/2008 19:51:31
Message:

oh thats who you gave it too.
I remember you saying you gave it to a friend.
thats funny, now we know why noss really wears the mask.
:D


Reply author: itxploded
Replied on: 01/22/2008 19:53:51
Message:

whats that? btw whats unnder the mask some hideous disfigurement

logan
sedated for youre protection
lets continue


Reply author: itxploded
Replied on: 01/22/2008 19:57:47
Message:

j/k of course

logan
sedated for youre protection
lets continue


Reply author: slipfirep40
Replied on: 01/22/2008 20:36:42
Message:

I thought it was a welding tank.



_________________________________________________
All errors in spelling and grammar are entirely by design in order to enrage those who have nothing left to add to the discussion and therefore seek superiority through personal attacks.

RON PAUL 2008

RANGER KNIVES

(850) 217-2418


Reply author: itxploded
Replied on: 01/22/2008 20:52:44
Message:

read it sometime

logan
sedated for youre protection
lets continue


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 01/22/2008 20:56:48
Message:

The welding tanks are on the other side out of view.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: diceman
Replied on: 01/22/2008 21:51:12
Message:

Noss - you're the man. I haven't been able to watch the vids yet, but I just read your writeup. I remember asking you for a Battle Mistress test right when you opened the site - and I'm SO HAPPY that you were able to get one done! I can't wait to see the vids - but from your writeup, I can tell that she even exceeded YOUR expectations!

ROCK ON BRO!! Time for some well deserved R&R for yourself after that, I'm sure. :D


Reply author: slipfirep40
Replied on: 01/23/2008 00:37:43
Message:

quote:
The welding tanks are on the other side out of view.



Thats....comforting....

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All errors in spelling and grammar are entirely by design in order to enrage those who have nothing left to add to the discussion and therefore seek superiority through personal attacks.

RON PAUL 2008

RANGER KNIVES

(850) 217-2418


Reply author: itxploded
Replied on: 01/23/2008 01:42:28
Message:

lmao! dan: i told him to pack a lunch lol :p

logan
sedated for youre protection
lets continue


Reply author: lafayette
Replied on: 01/23/2008 10:17:57
Message:

This test is excellent and very informative.
Noss, you said the "CGFMB feels like a machete compared to the FFBM". My God, I thought the CGFMB was heavy...
This steel is really amazing and has an exceptional edge retention.


lafayette


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 01/23/2008 13:03:45
Message:

The FFBM is very heavy compared to the CGFBM. The FFMB steel INFI is very hard but very tough it's no the norm to have this level of hardness and toughness.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: lafayette
Replied on: 01/24/2008 11:45:14
Message:

Yes, one can see it when it breaks all of a sudden. But it took a lot to do so.

lafayette


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 01/24/2008 22:06:18
Message:

If I didn't hit the welded cross section I would have gotten through it twice and maybe one more time. The last hammer blows were
serious.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 02/08/2008 21:38:11
Message:

hi I am a chinese boy . i like you site very much!!!
great job you have done!!

eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 02/09/2008 09:05:55
Message:

dingy: Welcome to the forum.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 02/15/2008 00:46:44
Message:

hi man,i have a question!
i fond the "New Knife Test.com Forum. The original forum will continue to operate. Enjoy !
"on the main page of your site,and i cant understand the necssarity of building another one that have same founction!!!
please tell me !!!









eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 02/15/2008 01:24:36
Message:

I started the new one because this one runs very slow and can be very annoying at times. The new one is much faster and has better features compared to this one.

Post on either one.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 02/15/2008 01:52:01
Message:

ok i am going to register a username on the new one!!!


eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 02/15/2008 02:13:46
Message:

Sounds good. You can chose you own avatar on the new one I have to add your unique avatar here myself.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 02/29/2008 19:50:48
Message:

hi, what are the differents between the FFBM and the CGFBM???
and which one is your favorite??
Thanks
and the prices of both are different???

and which one is the better?

i have too many questions to boreded you !!

eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 02/29/2008 20:11:21
Message:

and what dose the words "Double Cut" mean???
you are a "knife confessor" in my eyes, man!!


eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 02/29/2008 20:15:13
Message:

i am broswering the net and i found a sits :
http://lundestudio.com/bussecombat.html
so many products of the lovely Mr.Busse!!


eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 02/29/2008 20:23:19
Message:

i also found the Appearances of the busseknives and the scrapyardknives are similar !
why ?

eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 02/29/2008 20:38:28
Message:

The difference between the FFBM and CGFBM the the blade thickness the FFBM. .310" thick and the CGFBM is .250" thick also the combat grade has the corrugated bevel technology or CBT. They are lines milled onto the blade.

Double Cut is just another way to say bead blast finish.

Scrapyard knives is owned by Dan Busse. Jerry Busse's brother.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 03/01/2008 21:31:27
Message:

Thank you Somking baby, for your kindness!!!!!
the lines on the belly of the blade or "CBT" does have any use???
is it just for the Decoration!!!


eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: Man of Iron
Replied on: 03/02/2008 12:56:55
Message:

http://home.tiscali.nl/erixpage/Busse/

Link to Busse images, owned by some lucky bastard.

Examples:



A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 03/02/2008 16:07:20
Message:

dingy: from what I understand. the CBT lines are supposed to reduce friction when cutting or chopping since there is less blade surface contacting the material. I have heard they are to add stiffnes like a fuller or blood grove but I'm not sure this is correct or not.

Man of Iron: Those are some nice looking Busse blades. Some people have too much money. I wish I had this problem.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: Man of Iron
Replied on: 03/02/2008 19:12:30
Message:

Noss, you already have enough problems *cough* hockey masked freak*cough*

dang, that was a strange cough :p

A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore


Reply author: Man of Iron
Replied on: 03/02/2008 19:13:30
Message:

Just realized I passed 100!!!

A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 03/03/2008 11:45:24
Message:

Congratulations on 100 posts.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 03/04/2008 03:34:11
Message:

you are a talent!!!! thanks!!
it is sonds reasonal!!!
does the Mr.Busse receive costom order ??
the thckness of .35" or 0.9cm will be better for the heavy blade,
right?
do not kidding me at my naiveness!!!


eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 03/04/2008 03:38:44
Message:

hi cool guy!!!
thank you for your pics!!
cool!!!
there are some differents on the blades of the ffbm and limted edition ffbm, right ? can you tell me ? i am a green hand in the science of blade!!!
you and noss could teach me some !!!


eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 03/04/2008 04:07:45
Message:

hi, Great Noss,
do you want me edit a essay for the great job that you have done,
and publish it on a China blades magzine??
oooh,you ruputation will spread over the Pacific ocean !!!
did you??
that just a propose that was borned in my mind,which i want to thanks you for what you have did !!
you are a big man in my eyes ,you did the tests for your fan and Entertained the members of your sites!!!
the aspect which i most admired you is that you do not ask money and your tests are independ !!!!
to be frank, i like you!!! man.

eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: Man of Iron
Replied on: 03/04/2008 05:11:34
Message:

Sorry dingy, I can't realy help you on the Busse. Lately I'm all into Böker and Emerson, and if you want some user feedbacks I can do it on CRKT, ColdSteel, Buck, Emerson, Böker, KaBar, Opinel, SOG etc. Besides that I've handled few Benchmade, Spyderco, Fällkniven, Gerber, Mcusta, Uzi , Smith & Wesson and other less known brands. Anyway, if you wanna know something about Böker on this forum, I'm da man

A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 03/05/2008 00:53:04
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by dingy

hi cool guy!!!
thank you for your pics!!
cool!!!
there are some differents on the blades of the ffbm and limted edition ffbm, right ? can you tell me ? i am a green hand in the science of blade!!!
you and noss could teach me some !!!





Thanks for the kind words dingy. In response to the above there a few differences the FBM LE has a full flat grind and the FFBM has a flat/Saber grind. They are both heavy. The LE is not coated also.

Busse has a custom shop and I think they will make you what you want.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 03/05/2008 03:40:44
Message:

thank you man of iron
you are a Encyclopedia!!!!!!


eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 03/05/2008 04:01:26
Message:

Noss, thank you again!!!
without you permition i can not edit a essay for your sites!!

oh,i recently wanta order a folder buck 889 !
do you know of that one?
you can give a advice! you advice is my compass!
i can a offer about 100 bucks(it is not small amount of money in my eyes) to buy a folder, for long time ordinary use!


eats sh*ts toghter!!!

eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: Man of Iron
Replied on: 03/05/2008 05:06:37
Message:

http://www.newgraham.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=66

$50, shipping might be a problem, good luck.

A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 03/05/2008 16:26:47
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by dingy

Noss, thank you again!!!
without you permition i can not edit a essay for your sites!!

oh,i recently wanta order a folder buck 889 !
do you know of that one?
you can give a advice! you advice is my compass!
i can a offer about 100 bucks(it is not small amount of money in my eyes) to buy a folder, for long time ordinary use!





Sure go ahead and do it. Thanks

The Buck 889 seems to get good reviews for the most part. I don't have one so I can't say for sure how good they are.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 03/06/2008 03:32:28
Message:

Man of Iron , thank you
bad luck, in China, the retail price of the buck 889 is about 100$


eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: Man of Iron
Replied on: 03/06/2008 03:59:16
Message:

The 889 isn't cheap here either, mainstream price is determined by the largest importer, i.e. €90. The cheapest I can find is €70, roughly $100.
The best way to purchase knife is to order several online from the US (from the same site), so the shipping cost will be relatively low. But there is always the chance you will have to pay importtaxes, so get informed before you order them.

A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 03/07/2008 01:07:12
Message:

How to say , you and Noss both are sweetheart to me!


eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: bowie knife
Replied on: 03/07/2008 11:15:47
Message:

The blade held up great, however aren't you guys worried about how easy the handle came loose and eventually came off? I had the same problem with a CGFBM with a lot less use. I was using a rubber mallet and my handles came loose in a matter of minutes. I returned the two I bought and they re handled the used one. I then sold both of them later on. I have a feeling handles coming off of these users will be a problem. I just bought a Fehrman Final Judgement to replace them.


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 03/07/2008 12:02:13
Message:

bowie knife welcome to the forum. It does concern me that the handles coming off but the other way I look at it is since it is a full tang and if they came loose or did fall off I could still fully use the knife granted it would not be very comfortable to use but I could still use it.

I like the idea of using screws better since I can easily tighten them. It would be easy to convert one to screws instead of the tubes.

So far the handles on my CGFBM have not come lose but I haven't used it nearly as hard as the FFBM in the Destruction test. I have a hydraulic press and could easily tighten them if I have to. Field repairs will be more difficult.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: Man of Iron
Replied on: 03/07/2008 14:34:15
Message:

True, one of the many things I like about my Emerson is, the screws. They use regular positive(+) screws instead of the hexagon(???) screws all other manufacturers use. It sure make field strip easier, because all you need is a regular screwdriver or whatever you can improvise. Matter of fact, I've been waiting for a month now for the BM blue toolbox to come, so I can strip my other folders.

Anyways, welcome to the forum.

A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore


Reply author: eatingmuchface
Replied on: 03/07/2008 19:54:53
Message:

you can put some screws like justin at ranger knives (actually you can use the screws right of an rd I think) does in place of the flared tubes.
also dingy, I think the LE FFBM is even a little thicker.
.320?
maybe.
I have some scrapyards and it seems like I should mention that theres is also swamprat knvies, I think jennifer busse and eric run that.
so scrapyard, sweamprat and busse are all what we call the "busse kin"... cause they're all
related.
people that are more into scrapyards are called dogs, people that are more into swamprats are called rats, and people more into busse's are hogs.
swamprats are incredible tough too and they are differentially tempered and have micarta handles, so they're kind of expensive, scrapyards have whats called res-c handles (you can learn about them on www.scrapyardknbives.com) and are the most affordable.
also they are very tough. (almost as tough as busse's)
all the busse kin have the same heat treat and awesome warranty... and also idk if you know about how to get any busse kin knives but they sell in "releases" ( that why there are no knives in the company store) and often sell out VERY fast.

there is a new scrapyard release coming up sunday. (and a second release teusday)
it's a stout 5 inch knife with a double cut finish and if you can get it on the first release (sunday) they're... I think 80$, on tuesday (the second release) they are 100$.
if you have the money and are interested, join the forum and you dan busse will post a 48 hour notice and then a 24 hour notice with a one hour time estimate of when the knife will be relased... for the time given you have to be ready at the company store and refresh until you see the knife up, than you have to hurry up and order...
thats what you have to do to get the knife.

the ordering process is confusing and I doubt I explained it good enough, but you can join the forum and just read for some info and ask questions.
:D
if you have asny questions you can PM me.
idk if you even want a scrapyard knife, but if you do nows a good time and I was just letting you know.
and trust me, they are of high quality and performance, just like busse knives, just more affordable.
:D


Reply author: macgregor
Replied on: 03/08/2008 19:37:04
Message:

^
le ffbm are thinner

not all swamprat knives are diff tempered

and it scrapyardknives.com not www.scrapyardknbives.com

or for all the companys go to busseknives.com

inventor of the bubble distruction test


Reply author: bowie knife
Replied on: 03/08/2008 23:13:43
Message:

Yes, I personally knew about these companies before they were born. I was one of the first people to own a Battle Mistress and a Busse Basic #9 and #3 I like the resp handles better, but they don't hold up like Micarta does. I never bought any of the swamps or rats though. The Dog father almost got a couple bucks from me though. Anyway, as time wears on we may see an influx of people with handle problems. Of course you have the proud loyal customers that will keep their mouth shut, but for 450.00 My dang handles better stay on my knife for a little longer than ten minutes.


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 03/20/2008 05:06:12
Message:

hi Noss and Man of Iron
www.newgraham.com last time you(Man of Iron)give me the site ,thank you you are a sweetheat
and do you have the sites with a cheaper price?
by the way,i also wanta buy some cheap goods like used or secondhand !!!

eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 03/20/2008 13:55:20
Message:

You may want to check some online army surplus stores for used stuff. Do a Google search for army surplus.

________________________________________
A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: Man of Iron
Replied on: 03/20/2008 16:32:28
Message:

Dingy, NewGraham is the lowest it can get for a reliable shop for new knives. Of course there are knivesshipfree.com, knifecenter.com, knifeworks.com and etc, but the prices of them don't differ that much, maybe the shipment costs vary. Don't know much about 2nd hand stuff, however I did search for knife sites in China, and it shocked me: 400 RMB for a Böker Plus SubCom, that's like €40!!!

A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore


Reply author: Man of Iron
Replied on: 03/20/2008 16:35:22
Message:

PS. Sooner State Knives is good too. Best thing to do is order 2 or 3 medium priced knives (with your friends), and it goes wrong, won't hurt you much; on the other hand, if it goes well ...

A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 03/20/2008 21:17:33
Message:

ooh, I get it !!!
I will try like that both of you told me!!!
Thanks

eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 03/20/2008 21:20:25
Message:

you say "Böker Plus SubCom" i can not get it !
what does the"Böker Plus SubCom" you mean?
I know it must be brand ,but not clear in my mind ?
please tell me


eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: Man of Iron
Replied on: 03/21/2008 05:34:47
Message:

http://www.boker.de/us/index.php?c=51,2,48&a=BO589&p=2&pp=10



A little knife designed by a great guy, immensely popular. Böker is the main brand, Böker Plus is the sub-brand, and SubCom is design. Many variants of SubCom, including a hawkbill (SubClaw)

A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore


Reply author: dingy
Replied on: 03/21/2008 22:19:25
Message:

what a lovely knife it is !!
like a lapdog , i think

some day i will buy it as a Birthday gift to my GF



eats sh*ts toghter!!!


Reply author: Man of Iron
Replied on: 03/23/2008 05:36:05
Message:



If it's for your girlfriend, and meant for self defense, you might consider the SubClaw instead. Like Mercop stated out, ripping requires no to little training comparing to the tricky stabbing.

http://www.mercop.com/docs/bag14.htm






A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 03/23/2008 18:31:47
Message:

That SubClaw looks nasty sharp.

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Reply author: Man of Iron
Replied on: 03/24/2008 19:39:06
Message:

Own(ed) 2 SubComs in total.(gave a regular SubCom to a friend who lost it in a bar... without a fight ) Came out the box freaking sharp, even sharpen than Cold Steel, shaves quite clean. The edge retention is not optimal, for the AUS 8 used is at 56 RC I guess, nonetheless, for self defense/backup (thus not used for anything else), the bad guys are gonna have some trouble when you're armed with one of these.

Like Mercop mentioned, go for the face, hands and wrists. In a self defense scenario, the psychological damage is way bigger than the physical one. That's why I EDC a Wave Emerson: besides the 2-3 seconds you're gonna save, waving a knife out of your pocket in front of your attacker, is gonna make him hesitate and/or back off, giving you the extra precious second(s) to run, or fight.

One funny thing about the EKI Mini Commander: I once borrowed the Mini Com to a fellow student to spread peanut butter on his bread in a class room, when he was done, he went to clean it. Holding it in a pistol grip, he went down the hall way, "flashing" the HUGE [;P] blade in front of a group female students without even realising it. Priceless.

A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore


Reply author: UCOK
Replied on: 04/10/2008 04:40:18
Message:

Noss... is this wonderful test just because it's an FFBM or it's an INFI?


Reply author: eatingmuchface
Replied on: 04/10/2008 13:44:07
Message:

INFI is the steel its made of.
(that all busse's are made of)
and the knives always got TONS of hype about how tough and how great they are...
peopel always knew they were pretty tough knives and they normally backed it up...
but this test proved it the most.
:D

welcome to the forums.


Reply author: UCOK
Replied on: 04/11/2008 05:35:01
Message:

Thanks for the welcome. Yes I mean, is it because the FFBM is pretty thick steel or it's just because of the INFI steel so you can apply this test result to another Busse knives.


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 04/11/2008 12:01:48
Message:

UCOK: Welcome to the forum. Yes, you can apply the results to a thinner blade made of INFI. I will say a 1/4 inch thick blade should perform the about the same.

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A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: eatingmuchface
Replied on: 04/11/2008 16:37:21
Message:

unless testing lateral strength, I wouldn't think thickness has a HUGE impact on the test.


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 04/11/2008 19:17:33
Message:

yes, it is not just about blade thickness some very thin blades I have tested the Bushman the GI Tanto or even the Mora clipper are very tough. When you get into strength then the thicker blades start the show what they are made of compared to a very thin blades.


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A Dull knife is always better than a broken knife.


Reply author: macgregor
Replied on: 04/15/2008 19:39:44
Message:

O man Noss, I just watched the first vid agian and I had frogot about the kitchen knife.

I was rolling around cracking up

inventor of the bubble distruction test


Reply author: eatingmuchface
Replied on: 04/15/2008 20:07:26
Message:

lol
yeah!
I always forget everything that happens in the beggining of the good tests because they're asooo long by time they're over I'm just thinking on what I'm going to say about how i think the knife did.
:D

lol
I can't believe I forgot about that.


Reply author: Noss
Replied on: 04/16/2008 00:56:47
Message:

macgregor: LOL yeah the Busse came a little on the thin side.

EMF: 11 videos is a lot. That Busse didn't want to die. It's one bad ass knife. It's not afraid of being beat up. I think
the Timex slogan applies here. It takes a licken and keeps on ticking.

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