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Noss
Moderator
USA
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 Posted - 09/02/2007 : 16:46:27
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The Fallkniven. A1 proved itself in the field testing it was time to see what other secretes this knife would reveal in the destruction test. I do not chop in this test because I did it in the first video.
Apple pealing: I was able to remove the peal with ease leaving the apple intact. Then I cut the apple into fairly thin slices. Not bad for a knife with a thick edge.
Batoning: I split a 4x4 in many parts with no problem. Simple for the A1.
Sheet metal penetration: I stabbed into a old index card holder made of heavy gauge sheet metal. After many holes I noticed the end near the tip chipped. This is the fist time this has happened with any knife I have tested.
Cutting 10,000 lb webbing: This gave all the other knives a run for there money but the A1 tackled this easy. I was able to do some very fine controlled cuts back and forth demonstrating it's fantastic cutting edge.
Concrete: Immediately after I started the edge begin to chip out the chips were very shallow. Then the blade begin to dent no longer chipping. It seem the edge is a little brittle. The blade it still intact at this point.
Hammer impacts: Using the 3 lb steel mallet I hammered the edge into a 2x4 repeatedly given the spine god hard hits. No problem here. I then hammered the edge into the concrete removing large sections of the stone. The edge continued to dent no more chipping.
Concrete: again: I hammered the tip into a larger concrete black containing large rock and rebar. Breaking it into small parts. The tip brick of and blunted during this.
Body weight test: This is where we get to see the benefits of the laminated blade. I placed the blade into a holder I made with the blade inserted about 5 inches into the holder. I then stepped onto the knife with all my weight. I weight 225 lbs. I even bounced on it. No blade failure at this point. I pulled the blade out about 2.5" from the handle and stepped on the blade. Again the blade took all of my weight. I bounded up and down for a bit before the blade fractured but it's not over yet.
Metal on metal: The blade was fractured on one side of the outer laminated side. Using the 3 lb steel mallet and hitting the blade on top of the fracture I was able to cut 1/8"x 2" wide mild steel flat stock. I hit the hell out of it with the hammer and the blade still did not separate into pieces. This I am truly amazed about.
Flex text: With the blade fractured I wanted to see how far I could flex the blade in the vice. I first place fracture towards me and pulled with all my strength jerking the blade because it is so stiff. The blade still won't give. I turned the blade around with the fracture away from me and pulled again. After many hard pulls and jerks the blade separated at the laminated sections.
Overall: The A1 performed different then the others. The cutting edge seems brittle but then stops and begins to dent. This is reverse of what has happened with the Carbon knives I have tested. What really sets this blade apart is the laminated construction. A fracture would have totally done in a solid blade but the A1 kept on kicking in a brutal way. The A1 is a fine cutter with it's very easy to sharpen VG-10 steel and convex edge. It did a fantastic job in the field for it's smaller size. All together, you have one serious tough and functional knife all the way around. Fallkniven truly makes some incredible knives.
Whatever hype Fallkniven has amassed, they deserve.
Enjoy the videos 
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part6
Part 7
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B-LORD
New Member
Slovakia
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 Posted - 09/03/2007 : 04:35:33
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First of all thanks for your amazing videos Noss !
For me this destruction test of A1 was rather disappointment. I thought laminated edge would not chipped so easily, also the tip has changed into a screwdriver pretty soon. But in disappointment i mean especialy the breaking part. For me it was the worst thing that could happend to it. No matter how hard it performed after it broke, splitting the plates of laminated steel like it happen is the worst demage that could happen to A1. I think i see the problem in A1 but am not going to philosophize.
Its outstanding knife, but i expected more.
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Noss
Moderator
USA
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Posted - 09/03/2007 : 07:27:39
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I agree about the chipping and the tip but it stopped and didn't continue so it didn't affect the structure integrity of the knife.
The other knives that chipped out during the tests gave way shortly after.
For me the lamination was the most impressive part. The A1 was put under a bouncing 225 lb load. Yes One outer layer broke
but the other layers remained together. A solid knife would have bit the dust if a major fracture occurred. It certainly would not
have been able to take a pounding into steel. The most brutal part of the tests is hammering the edge of the blade into steel.
Most have chipped out during this and the end was near. The A1 passed this test even with a fracture and chipped edge that became dented. The A1 Did everything in reverse compared to the other knives.
I want to test a San Mai III and see how it compares and how CS lamination will behave. |
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B-LORD
New Member
Slovakia
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Posted - 09/03/2007 : 16:06:30
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| Great! I cant wait to see SanmaiIII in test. It has been said that its much better then Fallkniven. I guess it will perform even better then A1. |
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Man of Iron
Junior Member
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Posted - 09/04/2007 : 12:21:42
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Noss, I've got several questions here for you:
First of all, do you still have all your fingers? (I know it's mean, I've got ten fingers, but I started with 12 :P)
Secondly, did you eat the apple afterwards?
Now finally some knife related question... I've noticed that almost every knife tested here has a clip point, if not all of them, however I've been told that drop point is the best to be abused. So here is my question: are you planning to test any knife with drop point in the nearest future, especially ones made from the extensively tested VG-10 steel, to compare their performance with that of the clip point knives.
Although the drop point has much less penetrating ability, it won't break off as easy as a clip point. This I can tell from first hand experience: once I've collocted several folded cardboard boxes on iron table, about 5/6 cm high and tried to penetrate with my Buck Alpha Dorado folder. To my biggest suprise it went all the way thru the cardboard (with its 6.5 cm blade) and about 1.5 mm into the iron, intact. Even though the 420HC steel is one tough abusable blade, I'm pretty sure that if it was the Alpha Hunter (ATS 32), at least a half mm will break off the tip. Beside the excellent drop point, the Alpha Dorado has THE best and toughest frame lock I've ever laid my hand on, and gives a great lock-and-load sound when you open it in a smooth motion, along with a satisfying feeling(I know this might sound weird and sick, but aren't we all excited with knives???)
And B-lord, I'm 100% sure what I'll get for Christmas this year, because I'm buying my self a CS SanMai Trail Master!!! :D Quite expensive though, €350 euro :(
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B-LORD
New Member
Slovakia
81 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2007 : 17:42:17
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Yea man ! The price for this beautys here in Europe is quite high... so we can have them at christmas tree. Am going for Magnum tanto IX by CS. When i had this knife in my hand, the beauty of laminated steel looks really like sword and all this tsuba style, tanto tip a like it in this version. Coldsteel is only one in the market who is offering SanMai III but first lets see what it can do in destruction test.
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Noss
Moderator
USA
1382 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2007 : 01:22:35
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Man of Iron: yes I still have all my fingers surprisingly. No I didn't eat the apple I threw it outside but an opossum ate it. Yes one truly did I have a deck in the back yard and there are babies underneath it all the time it seems.
Your correct I have tested any clip points yet. I don't know when I will test one most of the knives I test are combat hard use knives and they are not made this way but I will consider one if I can find a good candidate.
YES WE ARE ALL EXCITED ABOUT KNIVES !!! YEE HAAA !!!
B-LORD: A San Mai III destruction test is going to be interesting now that I tested the A1
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Man of Iron
Junior Member
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Posted - 09/05/2007 : 11:36:03
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Correction, EUR 300 for the CS SanMai III Trail Master, about USD 400.
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Man of Iron
Junior Member
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Posted - 09/05/2007 : 11:53:48
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Btw, you might ask Kev the survival guy to help you get rid of the pests, if he's still around ... and hungry.
You cannot run fast than a bullet. - Idi Amin Dada |
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Thomas Crago
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 09/05/2007 : 20:58:23
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Thanks for the vids Noss.
Were you sad that you distroyed the A1. I mean after all you used it for camping and stuff?
After using a knife I cind of get attached to it. |
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Thomas Crago
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 09/05/2007 : 21:06:33
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| I like the body weight test, how are the wonds have you already heeled? |
Edited by - Thomas Crago on 09/05/2007 21:09:27 |
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B-LORD
New Member
Slovakia
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Posted - 09/06/2007 : 17:29:05
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| Noss are you already decided which knife you are going to pick for a test of SanMai III ? I think u picked Trail Master, or is it something else ? |
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Noss
Moderator
USA
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Posted - 09/07/2007 : 00:12:06
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Man of Iron: He knows how to put on the bug repellent. Kevs a good guy I have talked to him a little on his forum. He's has a nice survival/outdoors forum everyone should check it out.
Thomas: your welcome.. I was attached to it after taking it camping this I do no deny and I was hesitant to do the test but I had those remaining questions about the knife. I'm satisfied now. I will buy another A1 at a later date.
I'm doing fine now all healed up..Thanks for asking.
B-LORD: I haven't fully decided yet but more than likely the Trail Master. This one seems the best for testing.
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eatingmuchface
Junior Member
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Posted - 09/07/2007 : 14:18:16
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| hey forum people. this is my first post. im only fourteen but i love knives. i dont know a whole lot yet but im learning. =] i thik its amazing how strong a laminated blade is. isn't it like pretty much two pieces of steel put together? |
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Noss
Moderator
USA
1382 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2007 : 15:13:41
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eatingmuchface: Welcome to the forum. We are all learning about knives here. The A1 consists of three layers of steel
The center VG-10 layer is the cutting edge. The outer 2 layers are 420J2 stainless steel. |
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eatingmuchface
Junior Member
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Posted - 09/07/2007 : 16:35:33
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| ohhh. yeah so its kind of like in the video where the guy made the knife out of a file. he softened the spine of the blade and hardend the cutting edge. and that vg-10 is crazy stuff. |
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Fallkniven A1 Destruction Test Video Completed
