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Zylon
New Member
Netherlands
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 Posted - 06/16/2007 : 11:07:45
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From left to right towards the top.. CS Heavy machete, 18 inch Latin machete, Kukri machete, Trail master, Bushman, Recon tanto, Spike talon point, Pro flight thrower, my first cheap Andujar bowie and last my Smith and wesson swat folder.
Trail master catching some sun in the yard..
Aint she a beauty.. comes with a nice smooth leather sheath.
My 2 latest additions. nice size comparison between Trail master and the Spike.
the Spike comes with a nice secure ex sheath. i use it as a boot knife.
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Noss
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USA
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 Posted - 06/16/2007 : 15:10:34
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Awesome Man !! CS Heavy machete looks like a a serious chopper.How does
it perform ? The Kukri machete is hard to beat. The trail master looks very rugged indeed. I like the Spike they look like surgical instruments or a Jack the ripper knife. Thanks for posting your photos. Post all you want.  |
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Zylon
New Member
Netherlands
57 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2007 : 16:42:25
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Glad you like.. that Heavy machete ive not tested it yet, but i find it too heavy to wield with 1 hand comfortable. it does have a nice grip and feel with 2 hands and im sure it chops nice. guess thats why they call it a "heavy" machete haha.. it was the first machete i got from an army surpluss store.
the Kukri has been sharpened on the sharpmaker to near shaving sharp.. its a nice chopper allright.
i do like the feel of the 18 inch Latin machete.. light and agile, nice grip too. i like feel of it have you ever wielded one?
im also a fan of the Bushman. after cutting branches, mowing some grass and creating a trail.. it stays sharp. i steel it a bit as maintenance to allign the edge thats all.
and if i want it back shaving sharp a few light strokes on the fine stones of the sharpmaker and its as good as new.
the Recon tanto is one of the older carbon V made in the usa ones. its my first cold steel knife :)
its agile and fast when you wield it. just what i would expect from a tactical knife.
that Trail master i love it.. the feel of it. its as heavy as that Kukri machete. balanced about half an inch past the handguards.
beautifull and came razorsharp on one side and near razor sharp on the otherside out of the box.
that black epoxy coating on the knife seems durable to me. i used that cheap spanish brand bowie knife and hit it spine to spine on the Trail master.
5 whacks on it to see how thick the coating is and how much would stay on the blade. from the 5 hit only 1 penetrated all the way and shows the SK5 metal beneath it.
the Spike has a good penetration.. i knew that allreaddy from seeing the solid proof dvd, but i got curious and tested it on a towel seeing how much force it takes before it penetrated. slight touch was all that was needed. it does need some work on the sharpmaker.. id say it came between paper and shaving sharp out of the box.
thats S&M swat folder is the first folder i bought from a decent brand.. decent as in compared to very cheap knives.
its my EDC.. lock has been reliable. i keep the knife clean and lubricated and recently used the sharpmaker to get it razorsharp.
did drop the knife one day and it kind of wore out the point. restored it a bit. oh well.
it performs well and when it needs to be replaced ill probably get a Recon 1.
last that Pro flight thrower.. fun to play around with takes quite some pracise to get used to it. i dont got a board yet to throw it in.
and it makes a "loud" metal clashing noise when it wont stick. |
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Noss
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Posted - 06/16/2007 : 17:12:10
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No I never used the Latin machete I'll have to try one out. I love the Bushman as well a great knife they have a knew Bowie Bushman coming out. I wish I could still get a carbon V knife to test. I guess their are still some floating around out their. I just haven't looked. It is supposed to be very tough steel.
The SK-5 Steel is very tough stuff. the trail master should be able to take a serious beating. How thick is the blade  The Bushman is very thin and the thing is very hard to destroy.
I almost bought that same S&W folder from the auto store about a three weeks ago. It was only 10 bucks. But I didn't. I figured it would make a good knife to keep in my truck. It looked nice for the price.
I have never owned a throwing knife. They look like a lot of fun. It would make a fun video test.
I'm going to have to get me one of the spikes for sure.
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Thomas Crago
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 06/16/2007 : 18:17:58
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I like the CS Bowie, do you know what kind of steel they use?
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Noss
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USA
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Posted - 06/16/2007 : 19:12:37
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| Thomas Crago: If your referring to the trail Master (as seen above) it is SK-5 or VG-1 San Mai III. If your referring to the Cold Steel Bowie's they use VG-1 San Mai III and they are mega bucks about $600.00 |
Edited by - Noss on 06/16/2007 19:14:57 |
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Zylon
New Member
Netherlands
57 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2007 : 19:17:55
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the Bushman is 3/32 or 1.5/16 of an inch thick.. the Trail master is 5/16 of an inch thick (the bowie you asked about Thomas)
both are made out of SK5 high carbon steel wich is supposed to be the Japanese equivalent of American 1080 high carbon steel according to the CS website.
so if the Bushman is that hard to destroy.. id say a Trailmaster made out of the same material that many times thicker would be just fine "wink" |
Edited by - Zylon on 06/16/2007 19:33:40 |
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Zylon
New Member
Netherlands
57 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2007 : 19:30:41
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made a pic of both the spine of the Bushman and the Trailmaster. quite a difference ^^
you can also see the marks on the spine.
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Noss
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USA
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Posted - 06/16/2007 : 20:18:08
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Good photo. There is defiantly a difference in thickness It should be The Bushman times 10 in toughness.
depending on how it is heat treated and tempered. Does the blade seem to have flexibility
The marks don't look bad at all. |
Edited by - Noss on 06/16/2007 20:18:45 |
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Zylon
New Member
Netherlands
57 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2007 : 20:22:56
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| In the CS solid proof dvd demonstration they managed to bend it to 30 degrees.. sure takes a lot of force to do so. |
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Noss
Moderator
USA
1382 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2007 : 20:25:18
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| 30 degrees is good for a thick knife. I'm going to have to test one. |
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Zylon
New Member
Netherlands
57 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2007 : 20:31:31
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the marks you see on the spine.. only 1 of the 5 marks reached the steel. the rest stopped on the coating itself. looks like deep scratches but no visible steel.
sure gave it some decent whacks with the other cheap bowie.. spine to spine. im lucky i dont have a testshop like you do. haha somehow i got curious and had to see how
well the coating is on the blade.
ever seen the solid proof DVD Noss? those flex tests are nice.. so are the tests on the locks of folders. the cuts knives make on a piece of meat.
i wouldnt want to be in front of a Trail master blow.
ok ok i have to convess i almost did.. but thats a different story. lets just say for now i got a triangle shaped mark in my leg (point of that Trail master) |
Edited by - Zylon on 06/16/2007 20:40:55 |
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Noss
Moderator
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Posted - 06/16/2007 : 20:51:12
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They don't look bad. Anytime you use metal on the spine you have to expect some dents. So it's not big deal.
the finish didn't come off so this is good.
I Have one of the CS DVDs an older one. The one I have when they do the flex tests. the knives do bend a good ways but they never show what happens when they let go. Does the blade return to zero ? This they never show. I think it's a little bit of selective footage. We will show you a little but not everything that happens. The folders look impressive in the video as far as lock strength
and flexing.
What do they show in the ones you have |
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Zylon
New Member
Netherlands
57 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2007 : 21:02:10
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the time they show the Trail master flex to 30 degrees.. they dont show it flex back. but before that they did use a lot of force to bend it by hand a good amount and it flexed back over and over. the whole device with the vice (spelling?) started to tumble from the amount of force and that was no lightweight "thing" they had it in.
i got the 2006 solid proof DVD.
wait ill show you what i mean by mail |
Edited by - Zylon on 06/16/2007 21:05:53 |
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Noss
Moderator
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Posted - 06/16/2007 : 21:08:55
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| My DVD is probably 4 years old or so. It sounds like a very impressive knife indeed. I'll look into getting one for a test. |
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Zylon
New Member
Netherlands
57 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2007 : 10:38:16
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of course it wont flex as much as the Bushman.. would'nt be good if it did anyway. to much flexing is bad for a chopper aint it?
thats also the reason bowies dont come much longer or it would flex to much on a strike. i read something like that on bladeforums.
if i remember correct no longer then 9 and a half, 10 inches?
and i agree Noss might be selective footage on the demonstration DVD.. might not. we can only guess.
still i feel pretty confident in my knives. the 2 cold steel knives in your tests did very well. |
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